Not funny Doc; I realise that this is a showbiz site, but the indifference shown by both Metallica and the general public is tacitly condoning the torture of people all in the name of National Security. Metallica are a great band, but they felt compelled to issue this copout, alas they be branded "unpatriotic" or "flagburners" which consequently would affect their commercial activities. (re: Dixie Chicks) Your reference to Barry Manilow may be a flippant comment, but many are unaware that the US military has even used the theme from Sesame Street amongst the assumed stereotypical Heavy Metal music for torture. At least someone had the courage and gave a damn to go find out how the music they had created is being perverted for the exact opposite effect for which it was created. I do urge people to check out the video, "Songs of War - Al Jazeera World" which gives a great insight into this subject. ...and I do hope any comment is above the level of Dubya's "your with us or against us!". Adults discuss things even if they have differing point of views.