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Last night, I did a spreecast with host Seth Everett on PRINCE in 2013. Me and Seth had these before where we just discuss things on Prince and what is going on. With 4 songs being "leaked" a few days before, people were thinking there would be breaking Prince news instead of a discussion of things.
Now, wouldn't I put the big news on my site or advertise the spreecast here? I tweeted and facebooked it only. Still, expectations ran high.
I can understand that when it comes to Prince, people's expectations run high, even though it said for a couple of days it is going to be a discussion. No special guests. Will there be some things asked and shared? Yes. Expectations many times lead to disappointment when nothing was ever promised.
If you wish to access the spreecast, you can do so HERE.
Some interesting things were discussed and so they did not get lost in the mix, I figured we could discuss them here and allow some input from you the reader.
Topic #1. I wanted to debate the pros and cons of "free" content. Let's say "3rd Eye Girl" was/is posting unreleased content without permission. Shouldn't 3rd Eye pay for what they post? Then say the NPG could pay all of the employed producers of the content. n 19-member band paid annually is no joke. We all have bills to be paid.
Topic # 2. A discussion of a new web site. With so many of the Prince community hooked up online would and could the fans get together and start their own NPG MUSIC CLUB (Prince's successful subscription and membership service used back in the early 2000's), pool their $ and vote on what type of music they want?
Meaning if they wanted new songs, rehearsals, material from the vault, complete live shows, certain videos. This way, it skips the need of I-Tunes and other 3rd (sic)parties. If the fans created a network similar 2 Facebook, a fee could be given to the NPG and they could just fill the order, pay those deserving and stop all the lawsuits in one fell swoop. Thoughts?
Topic # 3. IF "3rd Eye Girl" turns out to be a band member, say the NPG's newest additions Hannah Ford or Donna Grantis, what should be the disciplinary action taken? In the past, former band members have leaked material. Perhaps more thorough background checks are needed.
Topic # 4. Andy Allo was indeed the co-producer of the CD Superconductor. I was in the studio first-hand to see that happen. It is jointly owned by NPG and Alloevolution.
Of the all the artists that worked with Prince, Andy was one of the few who did not follow guide vocal trax originally laid down by Prince. Only the 3 songs that Prince co-wrote were produced in this manner. Andy is extremely talented and a quick-learner. She refuses to punch-in individual songs and rather goes back 2 the top when necessary to get a performance that she has sole approval of. She was given an unlimited budget by NPG to fulfill her vision. The results are something all of us can be proud of.
What do you guys think of "Superconductor"?
Topic #5. Paisley Park. The soundstage at Paisley Park is currently under renovation. It looks like Barbarella meets Sweet Charity. Are their any new fans that wanna experience late-nite parties at Paisley Park? What's a good cover charge that everyone can agree on? Yes, Prince will be there.
Now, I want to state these topics do NOT cover everything that PRINCE will be doing in 2013. I think it is safe to say (But I am assuming)we could expect a new album with some good promotion by it, a tour (Where n when would be determined at a later date.) and so much more.
When these Paisley Park shows would take place is not exactly known. As it states, Paisley is under renovation. That could take a while. He just wants to know that when it does open, what do you feel should be the cover charge?
I think it is a good start that he is thinking of another web site but wants the fans heavily involved this time. Perhaps so the NPG is held responsible for what content is provided. It shows the Internet is NOT dead. It shows that social media does serve it's purpose to some extent. I think it shows that he doesn't want to be completely accessible via Twitter or Youtube and would use it when he feels it could benefit him and not a "3rd party", so to speak.
I was going to put up a poll but I think it is best served if you answer the questions and perhaps when we have more of a general idea, we could do a poll with the most popular answers. I thank you for your time.-DocFB
Diagnosis: Surrender expectations. More things then will be fulfilled.
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Prince, Ta musique m'inspire. Alors, s'il te plaît, (re)commence à publier ce que tu sais si bien nous donner ; que je puisse (re)commencer à créer; merci beaucoup. Virginie.
And one last thing according 2 the content of ur future productions, never, ever, listen 2 legions of fans asking 4 (super) specific demands (rock, funk, jazz, waltz or whatever). Just take the f.. time u need (we're not in a rush) 2 make the best album as possible, on u can really b proud of, a new landmark (think of Sign of the Times, Songs in the Key of Life, What's Goin' on, St Pepper Lonely Club Heart Band) avoiding all boundaries of genre, and let ur heart go like never b4 in ur lyrics, strike new chords, new rythms, new harmonies, new themes, go beyond ur confort zone (I mean all - or most - of the north american music styles of the 20th century that u have already explored with talent and success). Hoops and now that (really sound) like another command ;) ahahah.
Well said "Jay". I agree with you 100%. I would love pay per downloads and/or option to buy physical cd's.
A new website - hmmm. Sorry Prince but your previous "form" has not been too good. You lose interest too quickly and what starts out exciting and promising from a fans POV ends up losing US money when you stop updating it with new content and simply close sites after people have paid "lifetime memberships". Would I like a new website - yes. But I would rather pay per download so that I knew I had got what I was paying for. From your POV that means no upfront cash to fund the website development etc. Not sure how this will play out but I will also say one more thing - please do NOT do this via fans. The risks (for both sides) are too high and in the end everyone will lose.
We would love to hear Acoustic sessions of your work and some really bold music experiment. The kind of stuff we'd never thought it could be released by Prince. Not another commercial thing. Yeah, take some risks ! I'm sure you' ve got in your vaults some really astonishing stuff. Release it ! Peace & BE WILD (again).
We are tired. TIRED !!! do you understand Prince ? Stop to loose your time and asking what we want. You know EXACTLY what we want. You are a musician, we are music listener. We want music. So, stop to make us loosing time with stupid website, stupid videos, and stupid "fan interview". You have 10000 songs in your vault, and you are "young", You can create others 10000 new Songs. Sing, play music, and put your d*mn music online. NOT FOR FREE. We are ready to pay (because this is exactly what you want to know). You want to sell CDs, we'll buy CDs. You want to upload songs ? We'll download them. We'll pay a price for each song. Or for each album to download. Or a subscription for MUSIC. Not stupid t shirt, stupid poem, stupid videos in bad quality. WE JUST WANT MUSIC . And please, don't think you are able to stop free download and bootleg. You can't. You just have to choose. You can controle what we can listen during you are alive, and your music we'll be everywhere when you will be dead. So you have to control teh situation RIGHT NOW. Spread you music legally. If you let us download good music, with a serious sound, we will pay. We are just tired to pay for nothing And please stop to work with gossip website. 100 and 100 fans all over the world are working hard on website about you. Work with people who really know you, who really desserve it and not soldier who just obey about what you want. some people are working night and day because they love you, and they fight for your music when "people" ask everyday "who is Prince ? Does he have new music ? now it's not so good !" Last point : enough with "never ending best of tour". You are the most impressive artist on stage. You can play WHAT YOU WANT, the audience will follow you. Enough with fear. Eat the world, like you did in the 80s.. Believe in you, and STOP TO ASK TO OTHERS what we want. You are the boss. Take some risks : online, and on stage We loved you because you took some risks , before, when each song was a masterpiece.. NOW you have to do the same. feel free.. FOR REAL But don't forget one thing : we are VERY TIRED
Topic #1 We all know P is "3rd Eye Girl". I don't give a fuck about that shit. I have bills to be paid too. Artists and musicians like Prince are earning 2 much money. They're spoiled like fat cows and completely out of reality of the world. If Prince sells a arena for 1 million dollars the he can pay his 19 people staff, very well, each nite, and rehearsals and studio sessions TOO. The key 2 success : If P releases a cd with GOOD MUSIC and a GOOD ARTWORK w AT LEAST 10 PAGES, LYRICS, QUALITY GRAPHICS AND Beautiful PHOTOGRAPHS, then people will buy it. Unlike what he did with the latest releases (lotusflow3r 3cd CHEAP set, PLANET EARTH, 20TEN...) that's not QUALITY, thats' BULLSHIT. NEXT. Topic # 2 Would and could the fans get together and start their own NPG MUSIC CLUB ? Sure, they are all already online sharing what files they have. It's called facebook, youtube, soundcloud, blogs, etc... Fans need their fix, they get it. They don't wait 4 Mr-I-Live-On-Another-Planet to release something. NPGMC was fine, why shutting it down ? Why shutting lotusflow3r.com ? Why shutting 3121.com ? May prince answer those questions if he only knows ? (not sure about this one) About fans collecting money themselves and buying prince stuff diretly from Prince, that's laughable. Who wuld have the time 2 manage sthg big like this, , then collect the money... (you know creating a site like that costs a lot of time and money) enough with stupid ideas. As sure as prince would surely not deliver what EXACTLY would have been ordered and paid 4, and release shitty quality videos, or poorly original music like "rich friends" or "cause and consequence"... Hmm, what's on his mind ? You want a site, prince? go ask some professionals. Oh shit it means you will have 2 pay 4 a 3rd party. I do too, everyday. Learn 2 reward other people 4 their work when they're not artists like you. You know a lot of people need 2 earn their lives. Topic #3 Disciplinary action taken? That's a joke ? Spank prince in public and post the video here. After all, he's the only one responsible 4 security breach concernig his muzak(sic). But he's already humiliating himself by releasing crappy music, with permission or not, it should never have been recorded in the 1st place, that's too bad. How cab he expect us 2 listen to the stuff he posted on this fake "fake official" twitter account ? Really ? i love 2 listen 2 Prince at the time of his splendour, greatness. I can listen 2 small clubs, reseda or montreux jams. I would love 2 hear troubadour shows, but no bootleg at a decent quality sound. But all the boring "welcome 2" stuff, NO EFFIN WAY ! Topic #4 "Andy Allo was indeed the co-producer of the CD... blablabla" I don't give a fuck about AA, as do a lot of people. We don't need that kind of boring music. We want inspired artists that can write original songs from the scratch, and not people that you find in the subways or beaches covering Bob Marley. Even if she's a good fuck, a fresh young woman with good ass and good boobs, I really really really don't care, as do a lot of people. Stop trying 2 sell this stuff 2 us, we don't want that. U better try 2 sell the sex tape. That would sell better. Topic #5 I and a lot of fans don't have the money to travel 2 PP. Indeed we live in two diffrent worlds of revenues, Princey. Charge whatever u like, I really dont care, as long as there is a bootleg.
2. Prince music being released online would be so much easier for listeners to get access to especially getting them onto mobile devices, do if that becomes a thing yay! 5. Paisley reopening....and with paisley parties?! I think I'm going to faint! That would be incredible I've never been to one and would die to go, as for price honestly I would pay an arm and a leg there's no price on prince...but when the chilie peppers came to the target center it was $48 - 65 so that would be pretty nice.
First of all sorry for my bad English New site with new songs, rehearsals, material from the vault, complete live shows, certain videos would be amazing but with music in good quality,not mp3, and HD videos please and also the possibility to by CDs and tickets concerts. A blu ray of his residency in London 20007 or Montreux 20009 or both ;) would be so great! And of course a new album! Parties in PP, wonderful, but don't forget the rest of the world ;) I always love Prince's bands, so great musicians, but I dream also to see Prince live, alone, playing all instruments, he can do it, it would be awesome! Anyway, Thank U Prince for your music and your "generosity" trough all this years, I insist, I never saw an artist as talented and "generous" with his audience in live performances, sometimes he gives so much, main shows of three hours, after shows even more longer! And sometimes for free like in Montreux Jazz Cafe at three in the morning, I was there and he turned wild all the crowd... amazing night ;)
#2 he's fallen right behind on the Internet, he needs his own site where we can buy the music. Just put it out there and we will buy it, should have done it years ago. As for a fan website pooling money....don't be silly lol
I have a comment on the subject of Prince's reluctance to release dvd's to his fans. Doesn't he realize that if only would release professionally filmed DVDs to the public (with copy guard) people would have no need to seek out the bootleggers, or make unofficial copies. Personally I would much rather buy a good quality dvd directly from Prince via his own website store, than to hand over my money to a bootlegger for a less than perfect quality dvd, just because that is all that is available! ;)"
Po-si-ti-vi-ty Yace ! Marseilleflow3r at Paisley Park ! What a Dreeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaam man ! If we're invited to Paisely Park, we can make professionnal classification of The Wault for FREE ! Yes for FREE. Look at my new furniture to put all my Prince's 7" !!!
I have to quote John here and want to co-sign especially this part of his post: "The best thing you could ever do would be to tour the world as a solo artist, because people love you for YOUR talent, not anyone else’s in your band or any protege’s… YOU. Sit at the piano or the guitar and let the world hear who you truly are." It is generous of Prince to give so many other talents a chance to shine by being in his band, and personally I can enjoy any form of band he performs with - whether it is 5 or 15 people. -- But it is true, that it's really YOU Prince, who most of us care about and want to see live!!! You, your voice and your guitar is all we need - and you make everyone else on the stage disappear! All we want is YOU! No one compares 2 U! Never.
What a great comments from John. Prince have amazing fans, having a privilenge 2 get 2 know some of these incredibly kind hearted loyal souls I think it's wonderful from Prince 2 inquire input 2 his future plans. Housequake was a really cool site and the idea with working 2gether with fans would bring the best of Prince 2 people who really understand the vastness of his musical abilities. The site should be run by people who really know their stuff and Prince should make a commitment with it and treat his emplyees with respect and get rid off his massive desructive control freakiness. One Love
Hello there. It was nice to talk with you guys. Keep the fun(k) alive, Looking forward to hear new music and hopefully see new shows and internet site about and WITH Prince...
Topic #1. I wanted to debate the pros and cons of "free" content. Let's say "3rd Eye Girl" was/is posting unreleased content without permission. Shouldn't 3rd Eye pay for what they post? Then say the NPG could pay all of the employed producers of the content. n 19-member band paid annually is no joke. We all have bills to be paid. Prince (like any other musician with official/un-official content on YouTube) will never be paid outright for publishing music on this channel. That's not to say there isn't money to be made in putting up good quality product... social media is essentially people sharing what they love/don't love with other people, creating a conversation without any barriers and boundaries. This isn't the great evil that Prince seems to think it is... he has very little to lose by putting up content that he doesn't intend to put in to an "official" product and sell anyway (i.e. the latest concert clip of ICNTTPOYM). He's not losing anything and would gain a serious amount of new fans and gain a massive amount of interest in going to his concerts and giving him more opportunity for ticket, album and merchandising revenue. I don't like the way that this always comes down to money, it should be about the MUSIC and sharing his talents with the world so that he's appreciated. The comment on whether the content would help contribute to paying his touring band/entourage/tech/management is a bit cheeky... i'm sure they're making enough to get by. Topic # 2. A discussion of a new web site. With so many of the Prince community hooked up online would and could the fans get together and start their own NPG MUSIC CLUB (Prince's successful subscription and membership service used back in the early 2000's), pool their $ and vote on what type of music they want? - Prince fans already had a great site. Housequake.com. The only people/person that didn't want it to exist were the people who it was trying to celebrate the work of. You can't have a relationship with someone if only one of you shows love and trust, dig? Enough said. Meaning if they wanted new songs, rehearsals, material from the vault, complete live shows, certain videos. This way, it skips the need of I-Tunes and other 3rd (sic)parties. If the fans created a network similar 2 Facebook, a fee could be given to the NPG and they could just fill the order, pay those deserving and stop all the lawsuits in one fell swoop. Thoughts? - Again similar to my response of the first point this is again coming down to money which is the key reason why Prince wants to go a different way to iTunes: He doesn't make enough money from sales on iTunes vs the provider (iTunes) and the transaction managers (credit card companies). The truth of the matter is if Prince is going to avoid using iTunes (the leading music distribution model on the planet) then he's going to sell less albums/singles and de-crease his fanbase by making it harder for them to purchase his material. I'll say it agin - if you don't let people hear you through the channels you expect (as per the situation with YouTube) then don't expect to make the wads of money you are after because both sides aren't getting anything they want, which is a whole lot worse than getting a little bit of what you need. Secondly - setting up a separate an online website / marketing / social media distribution model is an extremely expensive exercise (I know, I do it for a living) and will likely only be of use to hard core fans who have only so much money in their wallets. Times have moved on from an era where it would be acceptable to the wider fan base to pay Prince directly for the material and then have to go to the trouble of uploading it to their devices in a really painstaking way through iTunes (for example)... people just don't want the hassle in the fast-paced world of online of having to do that. The best way to get people to hear your material is put it up through the channels that already exist, get people to pay for it through the online stores (so you at least generate some revenue) and deal with the thousands more fans that want to come and see you in concert as a result (what a nice problem to have). The other consideration to this is whether it is worth Prince's time and investment to maintain a separate site/distribution model. We all know how that panned out last time (...and the time before that). Prince will always be better off just dealing with the music. Put out great music and people will always want it if they can get their hands on it easily. Topic # 3. IF "3rd Eye Girl" turns out to be a band member, say the NPG's newest additions Hannah Ford or Donna Grantis, what should be the disciplinary action taken? In the past, former band members have leaked material. Perhaps more thorough background checks are needed. - I'm not sure what to say apart from if Prince doesn't want his material leaked then keep hold of it. If she is then who can blame her for releasing it... PRINCE SHOULD BE HEARD. Actually I'm quite dumbfounded over this whole scenario which just seems like a complete waste of everyone's time. Topic # 4. Andy Allo was indeed the co-producer of the CD Superconductor. I was in the studio first-hand to see that happen. It is jointly owned by NPG and Alloevolution. Of the all the artists that worked with Prince, Andy was one of the few who did not follow guide vocal trax originally laid down by Prince. Only the 3 songs that Prince co-wrote were produced in this manner. Andy is extremely talented and a quick-learner. She refuses to punch-in individual songs and rather goes back 2 the top when necessary to get a performance that she has sole approval of. She was given an unlimited budget by NPG to fulfill her vision. The results are something all of us can be proud of. What do you guys think of "Superconductor"? - Not sure why this question is relevant to the previous points but I haven't heard it all the way through, but on the outset it seems like Andy should go back to a more acoustic style that suits her more than a funk-orientated one. I'm not commenting more because I haven't heard the entire album. There's not much reason to do so, I'm a Prince fan and a fan of good music. There's plenty of good music out there that I'd buy before Andy's album unfortunately (sorry Andy). Topic #5. Paisley Park. The soundstage at Paisley Park is currently under renovation. It looks like Barbarella meets Sweet Charity. Are their any new fans that wanna experience late-nite parties at Paisley Park? What's a good cover charge that everyone can agree on? Yes, Prince will be there. - I live in London. Bring the soundstage, I'll bring my ears (and yes Prince, I will bring some cash for you and your band as well.) In closing, it really is all about the money now? Thought there was some pretty strong stuff in the bible about greed? When was the last time Prince actually challenged himself as a person and also musically (vs. challenging the fans/industry)? Sometimes the biggest hurdle to overcome is yourself, the rest will follow. My advice to Prince (and you can call me up anytime if you wants to - i'm actually a really nice guy I'm just frustrated friend! - not in that sense!) is the following: Open your ears to today's music and today's music lovers. Don't bury your head in the bible when there's so much more to learn and so much more to see. Have more trust in people and appreciate that when all is said and done you won't leave this earth with the cash that you made or the women that you parade, all that you will have will be the love that you made through your music. Music has taken you all around the world, but if you close you eyes to what's infront of you then well, you just won't see. This life could be over in a blink of an eye, don't let your last moment be sending a c&d. The best thing you could ever do would be to tour the world as a solo artist, because people love you for YOUR talent, not anyone else's in your band or any protege's... YOU. Sit at the piano or the guitar and let the world hear who you truly are. Thanks for you time :-)
Doc, thanks for the detailed information. I love that Prince is (indirectly) communicating with us through you. :o) What stands out for me in all that you wrote is the possibility of Paisley Park parties! It would be a dream come true to meet Prince in his very own purple Kingdom! I mean - what could be better?! What would I pay for that privilege? - A lot, because it would be a once-in-a-lifetime-experience for me, given that I'm from Europe. - And that's the thing: in order to make this possible to experience not only for those fans who live in or close to Minneapolis, we would need an announcement many weeks (better even months) in advance!!! Prince likes to do things last minute, so I don't know if that would work out. ;o) The thought of a website is certainly exciting, too. Especially since I missed the NPGMC days completely (unfortunately), and I like the idea of getting videos and new music for download - shared by Prince himself, not by fans who "stole" the material. I would gladly pay for that, too. And this would be my main message to Prince: we appreciate he is thinking about these things, and it makes me happy that he is reaching out to his fans! What it comes down to is that most of us would gladly pay for anything he officially releases - CD, DVD (like the RNR Affair Single recently) - just please, Prince, make it available!!!! Yes, he and the NPG should get paid for their work as everyone else, and it is not alright to upload unauthorized stuff. BUT - we all jump at the chance of getting any Prince material, and if there is nothing officially released by him we go and get it otherwise. He could prevent that by releasing his own stuff!!!! Finally - I like Superconductor and think Andy is very talented. A huge thanks to Prince for starting out this year with so much excitement in the purple world!! :D I love going online every day and checking what's new. Like "what is he doing next"? He loves to play with us and surprise, and I am one who is happy to play along and be surprised! THANK U PRINCE!!!
1. If 3rd Eye Girl is posting content without permission then they firstly shouldn’t do it, and if they do they should seek permission to or provide payment for doing so. I say this knowing compensation for putting out someone else’s music isn’t really a viable option, so the real only solution is not to put things out she has no right to. I also say that these pieces were put out on YouTube which is not a download service but a content provider for viewing. You dial up what you want to see and watch. You don’t own or keep or download anything, so her putting it up through a streamed service that only allows you to watch and listen is different but the principle remains that she shouldn’t put anything up without legal permission. 2. Sounds like a good idea but being fan-run isn’t appealing, however being fan-guided is. I loved the NPG Music Club. It worked and we could download music because we paid for it. I have a gripe that most of my paid-for music disappeared when keys for the code started disappearing but that’s another issue. If Prince sanctioned and authorized someone to do it who was on his payroll and answerable to him in case that person messed up and misused the trust of fans or their personal information then I’d sign up. I understand this means an outlay cost to Prince but then figure that in a subscription cost so the model is self funding. Also I don’t always want to download or stream music. I’d like the option to purchase limited edition stock of CDs because I like having a physical CD as opposed to streamed or downloadable music. Also doing it the way proposed by DrF is not going to cater to his whole audience but only a certain segment. Some people see him live every show but don’t download any music. They find the CD and buy it, or the vinyl. Some are fans who want mostly live stuff and so would demand that whereas others like some of his other joints. Prince’s music is universal and appeals to so many on different levels. You can’t tap into them all and offering them a restricted selection decided by vote of others and going with the majority may alienate and leave those who don’t go with the masses out in the cold. Just like NPGMC had music for sale and you could buy what you want, I’d prefer that. 3. You can’t run a background check on who leaks material. If they leaked something and it’s in their agreement they won’t do so it’s the same as stealing, so they would be fired. I don’t want anyone fired so I hope in this case they are given a punishment of not being able to play a few shows or take a solo away from them which is bad enough for any performer on stage! 4. Superconductor is an organic resource that keeps on giving. Its success is deserved and it continues to be discovered by more people. I welcome this output and also the support the project has received from Prince in allowing Andy to find her own voice and become a real “people pleaser”. 5. $25 entry charge for locals and for those of us like me who may fly in from the UK to attend if there are week long celebrations like previous year’s I’d pay $100 for a weeks worth of shows. If Prince wants to attract new fans keep it cheap enough for new people to experience what everyone else has been talking about for years and for others to bring their kids. If he wants us hardcore supporters to come out there and fly across the world for him we would, but please make it affordable and work out a good package deal.
Topic #1. I wanted to debate the pros and cons of "free" content. Let's say "3rd Eye Girl" was/is posting unreleased content without permission. Shouldn't 3rd Eye pay for what they post? Then say the NPG could pay all of the employed producers of the content. n 19-member band paid annually is no joke. We all have bills to be paid. i dont need free content!! i would pay BUT there is nothing to buy! No Superconductor cd in any store - no vinyl of 3121 - no 20ten in any format - but i have old npgmc music that i cant listen to because of the obscure formats! every prince fan WOULD BUY A NEW CD EVERY MONTH - but there is non. but i wont pay for another bad downloadservice... Prince do me a favour: give your fantastic material to a distributer and make it available in normal stores!!!
Ouch ! What I meant : "Hi Doc, from a french fan (u know we’re MORE than u can ever guess ;)) . Some simple thoughts on the P. projets (...)".
Hi Doc, from a french fan (u know we're thant u can ever guess ;). Somes simple thoughts on the P. projets. First of all, yes we need and we want new celebrations @ Paisley Park (or whatever it may b called this time) BUT it has 2 take different forms. It can b one-off gigs annonced @ the very last moment (good 4 fans livin' in Mpls or near-by) and it must b sometimes (let's say one or twice a year @ least ;) a real celebration like Prince did in 2002. I mean a real whole week (not a week-end uh ?) just because...we have 2 cross half of the planet 2 come from France or Europe or anywhere else in the world. We can come, we can pay, we can enjoy the thing like nothing else in the world ('cause we're dreamin of this for decades) but it CAN'T b just for one night. It has 2 b a whole trip, the real deal, the real sharing thing, u know a different concert each night, some games with the possibility 2 choose one or two numbers for the show by the winner (including outtakes numbers without going 2 jail ahah !! And well I pick Moonbeam Levels and A place in heaven ;). What else ? all the rest ! The possibility 2 interact with the musicians, the Man himself (no forget it, bad idea, we just can't ;), the opportunity for (bedroom ;) musicians like me (who listen 2 P music since I'm 14, and I'm 42 now) 2 play with P and the band in reherseal for a few minutes (or even a few seconds ;) : the dream of a lifetime. 4 real. The possibility 2 listen 2 unreal original music in a special room (like a bit of private reherseal sessions between Miles and Prince, if it exists or things from the Flesh sessions). Same for video shows, a room, our ears, rarities, everlasting memories. What would we b ready 2 pay 4 this ? Well a reasonnable fee I guess ;), just keep in mind that we'll have also 2 pay a lot of other people 2 realize the Trip (flight tickets, hotels, fruit cocktails, lady cab drivers and so on..). Let's share real experiences, that's what we'll keep in mind after all, we already have tons of fantastic Prince music, the man has given so much on record. If is not confortable with the idea 2 give his music 4 free for the moment it's ok 4 me, especially with the tons of haters fooling around on the internet, BUT the superverybasic idea of just sending real albums with fantastic artwork in a physical form stays the best I guess. That's what most fan are dyin' for. The Object. A f... thing u can hold in ur hands. Ok it cost money 2 produce but nothing comes 4 free. First u invest and then u make profits blablah.. And sometimes we HAVE 2 accept things the way they r or @ least the way they evolve : nobody can turn the sun off, nobody can stop people 2 upload valuable contents on the internet and share it freely (@ least on the actual state of technology). If people could download food 4 free, most would do it, and restaurants would b in pain. The economic models have changed in a radical ways. Artists win NOTHING with the internet, BUT the web providers have made billions of profits on it (allowing people 2 share and download contents 4 free). They should b the one 2 pay a part on the internet fee (we give them monthly) 2 artists. It's called global licence, u know Prince. And then everybody would b happy, artists could earn money again on internet music and we wouldn't b the "bad downloaders" etc... And anyway, it's not and it can b just about money. We all come go, we all go. We love your art Prince, if u love 2 share it with us, I think we can fix that in a way or another. We have already done this 4 decades, we can make it again.U have achieved such a fantastic carrier (4 us it's just part of our lives, well I've seen u on stage @ least 30 times I guess, last time @ restaurant "La Société" in Saint Germain des Près with my fellow friends from Marseilleflow3r !). And by the way, never ever forget than 99% of ur lovin' and dedicated fans are just super poors compare 2 u (ahahah). Hey I'm not kidding. So let's share some funk, good God uh !!
I would be happy to pay for music on a new site, but you should be able to listen to a stream of a part of the track before purchasing, like on iTunes. I think it should cost roughly the same too. There could be a Premium Club charge which got you extras, video steams and first listens etc, but rather than excluding potential new fans by having a blanket membership fee, everybody should be able to buy the majority of the tracks on the site like they do on iTunes. In terms of Paisley Park parties, I would pay silly money BUT I'm based in the UK, so like many fans I would need to factor in travel expenses so I think the tickets should go for around $150 for a night. BTW, I thought the music that 3rdEyeGirl put out was amazing, total return to form and very, very exciting.
If you want to make music... do it for the music, not for the money. You know we are all interested in unreleased stuff, because we love to listen to what you created. You know we will pay for it if you would ever release it on a website in good quality. If you want to get music out there, use that website or iTunes... otherwise we will grab it for free, yes. That's because we love you and your music. We love to listen to it, it lightens up our days. If I had fans like you, Prince... I would feel blessed. Not trying to joke around with them and asking them about money. Get your act together.
The NPG Music Club is returning. Why else would he put the large logo on the performance floor in both his R&R Love Affair and Andy Allo's videos? It's obvious he's up to something regarding the Music Club.
It's not rocket science! The people who you have surrounding you should be focused on your brand just like you are. You're Prince for god sake you can go anywhere and hire anybody, play with anybody, play on any stage. For someone as genius as you, it shouldn't be that hard to figure out. You are a innovator and people like to follow trends. So set one that people can respect!!!
#1 Yes this 3rdeyegirl needs to pay as if going to a store and this person is shop lifting same thing . They make the person pay for. #2- I am not a computer person but I would be happy to help to make it a real site. # 3 Well whomever took the material member or not member needs to pay somehow and if it is a band member I would make sure this person is monitor and check there background perhaps ??? if is a band member I would have trouble trusting this person again. Thank U for letting us know and asking us our opinion . The best for the renovations at P. Park and best with this person that stole the 4 tracks. Lots of Love Live 4 Love.
1. prince is a big joker & thats all it is a joke on people to wet there appetite. loved it. 2. re garding fans running npg club you need veryloving fans that are mature & dependible. any other employees would need to be the same & not doing the job just because its a job & they don't care. need good attitude. i would join club. i buy my prince music in the record store. never used itune. i'm old fashioned. 3. hannah & donna are new & wouldn't throw away their job & career to leak prince material. if someone does leak they should be arrested & tried in court for theft. this prince's life. i can't belive people have no respect. 4. haven't heard andy's record yet. 5. i was planning to go to minneapolis this year now i will wait to go to paisley park. $ is no object to see prince. thank you prince for the low ticket prices in los angeles. hope to see you this year. just being in your presence is awesome with the fans.
Hi folks its Josh the Aussie from the Spreecast. I would just like to add to what I said on the show about having heard & enjoying the outtakes/ leaked material over the years - I WILL BE HAPPY TO PAY FOR IT IF PRINCE HIMSELF IS WILLING TO "RELEASE IT!" And if the NPGMC returns, I will be at the head of the queue to sign up. But I think a quarterly or yearly membership would be rad. However the idea of only allowing us to see DVD releases at Paisley Park? Well, that would be tough for folks outside of MN or the USA for that matter. If that is true, that is obsurd. YES I have the Montreaux footage, & it is by far the best live performance i have seen on film by the man. (i'm also a mark for that band, incredible line-up!) I have shown friends & they are blown away. These people are not Prince 'fans', they just love great music & wild guitar playing.
As the 40th anniversary of "Elvis Aloha From Hawaii Via Satellite" approaches, which was viewed by an estimated 1.5 billion people at the time and countless billions since, perhaps Prince would consider a similar sort of televised concert performance...and then much more in the future... By reaching out to fans via the farthest reaching medium, Prince could avoid the many corrupt individuals/institutions that get between artists and their fans.
I already answered the questions in an earlier comment, but on the subject of how much fans would pay to see Prince perform at Paisley Park, I hope he considers the state of the economy and that many of his older fans have families to take care of. If it were just me and I had a fantastic high paid job, I would pay $700 but that is just not realistic. I think $70 would be a reasonable charge for a one night show, and maybe $300 for a 3-day weekend. $250 for the 7-day celebration in 2002 was a fantastic deal but it was still a very expensive trip when you add in airfare, hotel, rental car and food costs for a week, so a 3-day event would be more affordable for a lot of people. Thanks :)
I too think Prince just did this "Leaked New/Old Music" to make a point about how quick people would download unauthorized music etc. It was an experiment so to speak. He likes to hold demonstrations to prove a point. LOL In terms of a website -- if I were able to hear a stream ( a whole song, not 30 sec.) and like it I would probably buy it for a fair price in line with other sites. I wouldn't feel right paying say, $2 when i-tunes sells singles for 99 cents. But I think it should be free like other sites. If he invented some new outrageous music downloader that tooks seconds to download quality sounds I would pay a one time fee but it would have to be compatible to download/upload/interact with my other music. And, no more late parties for me. Too late, ya'll youngins have fun.
I know a whole a lot Prince enthusiast like myself who buys every release and goes to every concert within a hundred miles. Hell I live in Texas and have travelled to New York and other places. I've joined NPG Music Club, and the rest internet ventures. I know there is at least 2 to 3 million people that fell the same. We go to the after shows, pre shows and back to back nights especially if different material will be played. Most Die hards would enjoy the concerts and know every lyric to songs that were not singles. The only reason why people even get bootlegs because the material is not available. I would purchase every concert tour DVD if it was available as well as any unreleased music and I know a lot of people who feel the same.
I've just finished reading all of the responses, and I think one of the greatest things about this latest controversy is that it has got people talking, thinking and coming together in unison to discuss these important matters... It's a very clever move and I am excited to see what is going to happen. I was mainly introduced to the music of Prince around the '09 period, and so I missed out on the NPG Music Club experience, and I've always wished I could have been a part of the Love4OneAnother era... I have seen some of the articles and concepts behind the L4OA website, and to this day I find that it inspires me greatly and it helped to change my life, even though I didn't know about it at the time. The energy from that website was so positive, inspiring and unifying, and it looked as though the fans were really able to feel as though they were a part of the Prince community, and they could submit ideas, contributions, poetry, etc...all collectively contributing to a higher consciousness and a better world. The unlimited potential of a website like that to really change things in the world is such an exciting prospect, and I think it would be even more possible with the technology of today, to communicate more freely and make great changes for all. I found that just reading the articles of that website made me think outside the square, believe in myself, dream, feel much more positive in general and it ultimately inspired me to be a better person...and if there was something like this that existed online today, to help us through the challenges in this world (even just by providing new and inspiring music to listen to), would be incredible and well worth the price. As I saw when I visited Melbourne to watch Prince perform last year, there is a massive underground community of Prince fans, all around the world...and to bring everybody together to one place to share and inspire and uplift one another online and elsewhere...united by a mutual love and respect...would be incomparable...and I think everybody is craving something along these lines. I enjoyed the spreecast yesterday... In response to Question #5: This is THE dream of mine, to see Prince perform in Paisley Park. I see that a lot of people have suggested the idea of having plenty of warning due to families, travel costs, jobs and so forth...and I agree with this idea of setting a date in the future and giving people time to find that money and organise the trip... If I had enough time to earn that amount of money, I would pay just about whatever was necessary to see that. I would have to travel from New Zealand...which I did for MSG & Melbourne, so it might take a while to save that kind of money, but to visit Paisley Park would be INCREDIBLE! I love this idea and I hope that Prince will do more shows at Paisley Park, and the idea of screening live shows as well...wow, wow, wow! I agree with someone else who compared it to visiting Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory... This would be so magical.
Topic 1: 3rdeyegirl should pay for the leaked tracks, and NPG could use that money to pey the producers of the content and band members who participated on those tracks. Topic 2: Website - I think it should be like the NPG music club. I agree with a voting system of what Prince material many fans wish to purchase, and that's how the music club/website could be funded. Also, about possible access to early concert tix before sold to the public;only a limited amount of first dibs to concert tix, first come first served;limit 2 tix purchase per buyer and a confirmation code for the tix to pick up at will call. Topic 3: If it was a band member who turned out to be 3rdeyegirl, then yes a fine should be imposed or either that band members' paycheck for the first 3-5 shows performing with Prince should be paid to the producers/band members who participated on those leaked tracks, that 3rdeyegirl posted on the net. Another option is if 3rdeyegirl demanded money for photos/leaked tracks, then intentionally posted the tracks because that person didn't receive the money, from Prince or his associates. Then I think all the band members should vote to either fine that band member or let them go, since she posted leaked tracks without permission, and possibly tried to extort money for photos/leaked tracks at the same time. Topic 4 - Very good that Andy was co-producer and able to have her input on that album. Superconductor turned out to be better than expected, and has been well received by many Prince fans. Topic 5 - Late nite parties at PP: . Charge to get into PP should be around $20 - $ 30 and some kind of refreshments available to buy. He could also look into 'streaming' some concerts//parties/jam sessions, from PP. A certain amount per year for free-if show is under 1 hr, then free, but if it's a longer show, like 2 hours, then charge a fee. Should stream these shows mainly in the winter months, especially for international/domestic fans (including older fans who have responsibilities), and can't always travel to Minneapolis all the time=don't forget Minne's winters can be harsh. Brrrrr Let some of his band members do their own 30 minute live, solo shows from PP too, so fans can see their talents. JayZ streamed one of his concerts live from that Brooklyn arena, and many other artists have done the same.
Ok Doc, u did say there may b a 'special guest' so everyone thought 3rdeyegirl. But there was no 'special guest' at all. Everyone expected a special guest bc u eluded there would b one. There wasn't. End of story. Paying for a 19piece band annually would b expensive, but if he can't afford it then y not strip down to basics. I ain't gonna get a brand new BMW if I can't afford the loan repayments. I mean seriously, he can play almost all instruments himself, so y not record on his own, y does he have to keep a 19piece band running? Unless he's rehearsing to do tours, in which case the tour profits definitely cover the costs of his band and wayyyy more, so ur point is mute. We do all have bills to b paid which leads me into my next point. How much would you pay for a prince website membership? Um nothing. until he proved he wasn't going to rip us off again. Prince stole from us just as bootleggers steal from Prince and no way ill be duped into paying for nothing again. Because the website would b run by fans, who's to say once he's collected enough money he doesn't serve the site with a cease and desist and get it shut down? A risk I'm not willing to take. Prince is very strict and a site run bu fans would almost definitely end up breaching some pf his views and get shut down! Sorry Prince, ur scared to release material to us on the basis that it will b stolen, I'm scared to commit to ur website on the basis my $ will b stolen again. A relationship of any kind is based on trust and once that trust is broken its very hard to earn back, I'm not ready to trust ur new approach just yet as after all u did say that the Internet was dead! If 3rdeyegirl is an NPG member then he should decide what to do. Hannah did say bootlegs 4 days,so it's obvious this was pre-planned. Now anyone who knows anything about Prince would know that he is so against bootlegging and releasing material without his permission which leads me to conclude this is all a big scam. His mgr, band members and docfb supporting a blackmailer? Sure! Reading multiple posts it became apparent that fans infact contacted the law firm that supposedly released that letter and shortly after it was removed. Why? Because it was a doctored document. I find it quite insulting that whoever it was took fans for fools and tried to play them. How immature and disgusting. Whoever it was behind all this whether it was Prince, DocFB or one of the NPG band members I have 4 words 4u, grow the Ef up! Ur little plot cost more Prince fans than it gained. Existing fans that were played have been lost and people who didn't hear about Prince yet surely wouldn't have known what the heck was going on with that mix up. (Fans lost =less ppl to sign up to ur proposed website Prince = less $ 4u). Paisley Park concerts? Cool, but seeing as I'm on the other side of the world it don't mean much to me, so I won't comment on pricing. As for Andy Allo, despite being totally unrelated to all of this, yes she rocks, she's young, fresh, funky and has her whole life ahead of her. Her music is Awesome and she seems like a talented young girl. Good 4 her.
I'm ready to pay for any new variation of an NPGMC music club membership. I'm ready to pay directly for high quality audio and video. I'm ready to hop planes to Paisley park for any type of special shows/gatherings. All of these things sound amazing. The key to being a Prince fan is to be as ready as possible. You gotta get a purple piggy bank and do your best to have money stashed- If you're a serious fan, you know this comes with the territory. I do hope any Paisley events/shows are announced with more warning for travel arrangements. Going to Paisley Park is like going to the Wonka Factory for Prince fams. I have yet to go (inside) but I gotta felling this is the year for me. I want to rock out to "Bambi", shake it to the "R 'n R" (Remix 7) and sit quietly and listen to "Crazy You" & crowd participate to "PartyUp" . Oh, I'd like to hear "Paisley Park" inside the Park. There's my wishlist for 2013 <3
What Prince needs is a Prince Entertainment Network(which could include Music & Arts Education...). The Prince Music Arts & Entertainment Education Conservatory Network could utilize every medium available now, and every medium developed in the future. And users/visitors should pay something for what they enjoy viewing and hearing. Prince Radio, Prince Television, Prince pay-per-view concerts, Prince concerts on network television to help promote all other Prince stuff, Prince Jukeboxes in public spaces, Prince websites, Prince cellphones, Prince Wear(who dresses better than Prince), Prince merchandise... Done tastefully, Prince's brilliance could be experienced by everyone, and Prince would not have compromised his integrity. Sharing with others is a good thing; and money is a good thing. C'mon Prince, share a bit more with us all; we'll pay fair remunerations for everything you make available(It's only the oily-snakey middlemen that you really have a problem with...).
B4 I answer your questions let me say that your mea culpa is accepted and I hope you learn from it for next time, spreecast or blog post. Coz you did hype the spreecast and you are a bit obfuscating when you write "leaked" and "lifted" and ;-) etc. Are you playing games, too? Wouldn't surprise me if you are in the game. Whatever. Let us know when the next song leaks or the next album drops, all I care about is the music. Q1 I prefer to pay for music and videos but there is nothing to stop illegal downloads because software programmers are a dime a dozen. Other musicians make legal music and concert dvds available for purchase and have not missed out on income. Look at Coldplay or Bruce Springsteen. Me thinks Prince protests too much about the music industry and bootlegs. I don't take that seriously anymore. I can't comment on whether 3rdeyegirl should pay. What a silly question is that? If this is indeed a leak then it's up to whether a law was broken. If this is a marketing campaign then what was this c&d letter for? Took the game too far. Q2 A new website? I missed all of Prince's previous ones because I am not a fan that spends all day searching for what Prince or any other artist is up to. Apparently the previous websites left fans rather unhappy. He also shut down fan sites so again your question is silly. He should be thinking about what are his objectives? And how is he going to overcome the negative perceptions from previous websites? I would not pay for membership, only suckers would pay for that in this day and age! I would pay for actual products and events. Q3 Another silly question! Why do you accuse these two ladies? Do you have any proof? Why speculate and obfuscate? You said in the spreecast that you know who emailed you the twitter link but you cannot tell. Oh games, games, games. Q4 Interesting definition of co-produce. Did she pay for studio time and musicians? No. Did she spend months playing music, writing, recording etc with Prince? Yes. Were you there every day? I like the album a lot but anyone with ears can hear Prince 's influence on the sound and the lyrics. Even a transient listen via spotify to her first album shows that it was quite different in sound. Her first album was produced by her previous boyfriend who was more into hip hop. So again, come on! You are treading a fine line. Yes it is a nice album but stop the spin. Q5 And the last silly question...how much to pay? Has Prince no professional marketing people on his team to work that out in these times of austerity? How about 25 or 31.21 dollars? The bigger question is, who will go to these? Will Prince playing live for hours be guaranteed? Because most people will need to pay for airfares and hotels too. While I would love to experience Paisley Park parties, for me like most of his fans who live around the globe this is not a practical proposition. Instead for us overseas the question is will he tour in 2013 and where and will we have enough advance notice to plan our attendance as we have families and jobs etc to coordinate unlike Prince who lives the rock and roll lifestyle. Anyway, hope my answers are helpful.
Great idea for a discussion forum that may help Prince to make some decisions on what to make happen in 2013. Here are my answers to the questions posed: 1. Free content should only be offered directly by Prince's own website should he choose to allow it, such as the items he gave us through NPGMC. 2. Prince should definitely have a new website, but keep it basic. It just needs to focus on the product (music, videos, etc.) that he wants to promote and sell. It should mainly be a music/video store set up similar to iTunes or Amazon, where we could listen to samples of songs/albums and then choose to buy either as a download or an actual cd/dvd. There does not need to be a discussion forum for fans - (we have sites like prince.org for that), and no fancy "rooms" to hang out in, (which I am sure are costly to develop and maintain), maybe just a notice board for special announcments and a sign-up box for fans to enter their email addresses so that they can receive announcements / news via email. It would also be great if the site could offer special access to VIP concert tickets, etc. like with NPGMC. 3. If 3rd Eye Girl released content without permission she should be fined/reprimanded for doing so. However, this would not have happened if Prince had offered free teaser samples of his new cd on his own website! 4. Andy Allo should be given credit where credit is due, of course, as should any artist. 5. Paisley Park performances are always welcome, although some advance notice would be great, since there are people that do not live close to Minneapolis that would like to attend. Maybe there could be occasional one-off late night jams for the local fans (like in the mid-90's) and then more organized annual 3-day weekend "festival" type events for the out-of-towners, simlar to the "celebrations" in 2000-2002, but not as long (so as not to annoy the local Chanhassen residents too much!). Also, it may be a good idea to organize daily shuttle bus transportation for these (similar to that laid on for the concert in Oct 2009) so as not to have a problem with too many cars parked up and down Audobon Rd. Thanks for listening, and I look forward with eager anticipation to whatever transpires in 2013.
First off Prince has and always will be the most jaw dropping, engaging live artist I have ever seen and I've seen them all. I understand the 3rd eye concept of getting a discussion going to a point. What Prince has to realize though the teasing aspect of is this real or fake imo takes away from whatever good he's trying to do here. We as fans just want the music period end of story. Putting some trax up & then yanking them serves no purpose except to annoy & aggravate, especially since its been so long since we've heard any new material. I say keep it simple and just release the music & some live gigs ala dvd. That's what the fans want. I'm 42 with kids of my own and frankly don't have the time to play the will he or won't he game. I just want to be able to share some new recordings and live shows. One thing that would get my juices flowin' (insert joke here) is to start a website and simply ask the fans to vote ala poll what shows they would like released. Some examples that come to mind - The Troubador LA 2nd show, The House of Blues aftershow from 4/2002, The Conga Room 2009 etc.. You've brought me so much joy and your passion for music has inspired me as a human being and as a fellow musician. At the end of the day just "Release It, Yes"!!!
I have been a fan of Prince, since I can remember and I think it is great that he is posing questions to the fans. I am a little surprised that this isn't being covered on all blogs sites because this seems to be a small group of fans. However, I appreciate the opportunity to give my feedback. Prince is a major brand and this seems to be an amateur approach. There are ways for Prince to connect with his fan base and still maintain control. Topic 1 - If 3rdeyegirl stole unreleased material she should pay for the material. Music sharing is typically for music the artist releases so if the music wasn't authorized for release she should be held accountable. I don't know that making her pay has anything to do with producers and employees. Music is made to be sold and those sales cover expenses. In addition the band should be doing shows to get paid. Topic 2 - Prince should create a site that is free to access but if people want to buy the music they can buy the music. He can create his own personal itunes. It doesn't make sense to have people pay a monthly fee. It seems you would capture a larger audience by allowing people to access the site and pay when they download the music. Topic 3 - If 3rdeyegirl is a band member and stole they should be terminated. Employees shouldn't steal at any point of time. They are breaking the trust and that is unacceptable. Prince deserves better than that. Topic 4 - I think Superconductor is good, but music needs to be promoted. There seems to be a need for marketing. To compete in today's music market you have to do some marketing! The album didn't seem to have any promotion at all. You can have the best music in the world and if nobody knows about it then it means nothing. The attachment to Prince alone is not enough to make people buy the music. Andy needs exposure and marketing. She should be doing shows across the country to increase awareness. I hope that Prince is working with other artists as well and pushing out more good music like Superconductor. Just push it out with marketing!! Topic 5 - A Paisley Park experience is worth a lot of money. I wouldn't charge less than $200 for a show of this kind. However, this needs to be marketed as well. I am a follower of Dr. Funkenberry but this forum needs to be expanded. Prince has a lot of fans and they don't all follow this blog. No offense Dr. Funkenberry but you have 5,000 twitter followers and only 230 people were on a very disorganized webcast. We are talking PRINCE! It should be so much bigger than this. ***************IMPORTANT ********************************* Now I have a question for Prince and I hope he reads it. Who is your team??? The best surround themselves with a good team. This one ISN'T IT. You need someone that can manage, negotiate and help you get it done. Prince is a legend and isn't being treated as such. Very evident with this 3rdeyegirl, the webcast as well as he should be doing shows like other legendary acts. Please PRINCE!!! For Instance why is Rolling Stones traveling across America and selling out every show. Prince should be getting the same promo if not better. FIRE YOUR current management team and get someone who really gets it!!!
Note: Damn, I proofed my reply below twice before posting and did not notice in the 3rd answer "where no one can pay ala carte from music." That of course should read "where one can pay ala carte for music."
I first saw Prince in 1981 at First Ave. Grew up in MPLS and have been a fan ever since, having seen pretty much every performance in MN from the early to late 80's. I have never been able to take my eyes off of Prince. The exact thing that has made him so musically interesting is also the same thing that makes him absolutely frustrating as hell for fans. His rapidly changing interests and his need to be in control. Those things have produced amazing music and they have also produced a long string of business, marketing and relationship failures. What Prince needs to do in my opinion is focus on his music and hire some truly professional, competent people to handle the rest. Pay them and let them do their job. In this context it is easy to answer your questions. #1 The 3rd eye girl stuff is just an example of poor management and marketing. What is the point. Are we to believe for a moment that this whole thing was not orchestrated by Prince, of course not. This discussion should not be about the merits of free music or such. It should be what the hell is he doing in terms of any sort of well thought out plan to release material and be relevant? #2 It is absolutely insane for Prince to launch an idea like having fans create a site and pool their money to buy unreleased stuff from the vault. This again is about hiring professional people, paying them and getting on with it. No membership fan sites with fees, instead a well designed yet simple site where no one can pay ala carte from music. Absolutely offering full lossless flac format. An official site that has official news releases, tour info, bio and stuff of interest to fans. Not the current situation of rumors and disjointed, dysfunctional communications. #3 Why ask us this? It should be of no concern nor interest to the fan base. I care about the music not the minutiae. #4 I couldn't careless. Andy is not my cup of tea, but who cares. I wish her all the best. #5 Once again why ask the fans this type of question? This is the type of thing that professional management determines, it is a business question. It is all about having a team of competent people manage the business and non music/creative side of Prince Inc. I love Prince's music, I love watching him perform, I find his recording techniques and the details behind his creative process absolutely fascinating. As far as the rest goes, I find him extremely frustrating and the idea of asking fans about how he should conduct his business, well again, let me emphasize the same point again, hire and pay competent professionals to handle the business side of things. Do what you are good at Prince, creating music and art and let go of the need to control every damn thing.
Wow Doc, ask and you shall receive! It's great how many Prince fans are taking the time to respond. The thing is, people either love Prince or they love to hate him! I'm a lover! So here is my bit.... I don't really care who 3rd Eye Girl is or who is behind it. If the intent was to get people talking it worked. If it is someone who did something wrong, it will be taken care of the way it should be. I like to hear what's out there, and I know I am a rare few, but I like to buy my CD's. I like to hold them in my hand, I like to have a collection, I like to open up the cover, pull out the book and get lost in the pictures, the lyrics, the credits. I think that Prince should hire you and I to manage a web based page for him. He needs to stay relevant, he needs to sell his music, his cd's, dvd's, whatever he chooses. It needs to be professional first and foremost, it needs to be consistant, it needs to be classy and reflect him as a person. So much emphasis is on money, and yes, it needs to be run as a business, by intelligent people, not be fan based. The reality is, it is about money. But more importantly, it is about a craft, an art, inpiration, kindness, growth and keeping him and what he is about, alive now and when he is gone. It needs to be personal and have his touch, and be believable that he is in some way involved (maybe a video of him talking to his fans every now and again!). This is what people want, we want to see him. We want to watch him. And yes Prince, I am trustworthy and hireable! :) It is the age of social media, like it or not. When I see posts from Elisa Dease or Liv or Shelby, it's touching, it's real, it's human. We want to connect with artists like that and support them. He can still remain private, untouchable if he likes, but he is real and human and people adore him. He has so much to offer. He is not being true to his gifts if he is not sharing himself with us. One of my favorites to listen to is Indigo Nights. I listen to it when I am working and sometimes I find myself bopping my head, lost somewhere, transported, and ever hopeful that one day I can sit in a small dark lit room and experience an intimate show. Paisley Park would be great! I would drive there for a show. But a show that was going to be played, a show that is put on by him, not his proteges, and not 4 hours late. I find it hard to believe that Prince would want you to pose the question to us, how much would we be willing to pay? Perhaps he didn't and it was just you asking to start up a discussion. I think Prince knows what people would pay. He has to keep the fans who have loved him from the start, and wouldn't it be amazing for the younger generation to know him, appreciate him, and learn through him, the difference between the music that is played on the radio now, and real music. There are long time bands out there who still have it, still engage us, and still get the newer generation to love them. He can do it to! (he can hire you and to help him with that too! :) ) There are crazy people out there, and trust is a big thing for anyone, I can't imagine someone like Prince, being able to immediately trust anyone. As much as we would all like to have a glimpse of the personal side of Prince, and would love to know if the photos you saw were real and who was in them, good on you for holding them close and not sharing. That my friend is character, and that goes farther than money or prestige! Thanks to you and Seth for the Spreecast. I think next time, don't allow the fans on video, that was just too wierd! I do look forward to them! Thanks for the post, good luck with the blog as always, and Keep healthy! Take Care! Tannis